Monday, 26 July 2010

No room for sentiment in F1

Justin: I think we can all agree there is plenty to discuss following the Ferrari 1-2 in Germany. I received two rather colorful text messages from people not liking what happened at all...but they both seemed to blame Fernando Alonso rather than the powers that be at Ferrari.

First off.....Massa bashing yet again...but if he'd have been a lot faster over the first half of the year, the chances are that he wouldn't have had to endure yesterday. Fact, Alonso has panned him good and proper and is the only one even remotely looking like pushing for a title challenge. Fact, Alonso has found himself behind a much slower Massa in a couple of races before now and Ferrari did absolutely nothing. If they kept on doing nothing, Massa might crawl back up to 7th in the title standings, but Alonso would well and truly lose all fading hopes of a third title.

Even Martin Brundle himself observed that he would do exactly the same as Massa was backing Alonso into Vettel and to protect maximum team points he'd swap the drivers over and deal with any fallout later on.

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't like seeing blatant swapping of positions based on orders at all....but it does happen a lot more than anyone probably realises. See DC's remarks about it after the race.

Whilst I was searching around for news about the fallout from the race, I read Andrew Benson's BBC blog (seriously Andrew come and join us for a guest blog) and he made an excellent remark stating that this is no different from 2007 where Massa moved over for Kimi to win the title. If Massa had stayed in first, Hamilton would have won the title, yet nobody even noticed or cared about this blatant and brazen team order. Alonso is the best hope by a country mile for a Ferrari tilt at the drivers title, so what happened...happened...yet everyone is disgusted. Why werent people disgusted when Massa moved aside in 2007 to gift Kimi the title?

Even Schumi himself.....dear god am I really looking to him to aid my arguement?? stated that team orders still happen and should happen - balance this with him also saying he could definately see why people complained so much about his 2002 mishap to which my co-blogger refers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewbenson/2010/07/team_orders_rule_ties_f1_in_kn.html.

What the result does is give Alonso hope - he is in a good car now and he will look to push on with another win in Hungary. Mclaren look off the pace and in Germany Ferrari were easily the fastest out there.

I think part of the reason there was a big uproar was that it was Massa being asked to move aside. Unfortunately, coming back from a huge crash there is no fairytale ending a year on with a win in Germany. As we all know, there is no room for sentiment in formula one.

As for Alonso, I shall defend him, as nobody else seems to amidst all the character assasination. All he did was get utterly frustrated and utter "this is ridiculous" when he kept trying to get past massa all the while falling prey to Vettel. We all know the Latin blood boils when being stuck behind the mobile chicane that is Massa.

It made some sense. Massa was struggling throughout with his second set of tyres and was frankly all over the shop on some laps as Alonso lurked with intent. This has been his issue all year, getting tyres quickly up to temperature.

What I think is totally disgusting is the way Ferrari said it was Massa's idea! We all know this to be utter bullshit. As anyone that has read DC's book knows, its not in an F1 drivers nature to move over and let someone else win, especially your team-mate.

Rob Smedley really needs to work on his code system though! Another point here is that DC criticised Ferrari for putting the message via the driver engineer. When he got the instruction at Mclaren it was always someone in management that did it. Stefano Domenicalli is a bit cowardly when it comes to this then.

See look, I have defended what happened whilst bashing Ferrari too....a reasonable stance given Alonso is a fave of mine.

Sunday, 25 July 2010

The wrong order

Phil: Had to blog, to get something out of my system.

I was astonished to find myself actually agreeing with Eddie Jordan after today's race when he described the result - or, rather, the Ferrari team order that engineered the result - as repugnant.

Here's why I found myself booing the telly this afternoon as Alonso passed his teammate. Firstly, since Ferrari's similar exercise ensuring Schumacher scored more points than Barrichello in Austria in 2002, team orders have been illegal. Whether you say, 'your teammate is faster than you, let him through', or, 'your teammate is faster than you, do you understand?' it's still a team order. Nobody is seriously suggesting that Felipe's foot accidentally slipped off the throttle or that he allowed his teammate through on his own initiative.

Secondly, it was completely unnecessary. Apart from Alonso himself very few people give him a realistic chance of being champion this year. Even my co-blogger doesn't think so. Today's 25 points still leave him no higher than fifth in the title race, 34 points behind the championship leader Lewis Hamilton. The whole exercise was pointless.

Thirdly, today is the anniversary of Massa's accident in Hungary last year, which almost killed him. What better way to prove the doubters who thought he would never regain the form he had in 2008 than with a victory today?

Fourthly, Ferrari took their first 1-2 finish since the first race of the season today. How pleased did they look on the podium? Massa was understandably sullen, Alonso embarassed and Stefano Domenicali who collected the team 'honours' tried his best to put a brave face on the whole thing. Contrast that with Red Bull's effort after their 1-2 at Monaco which saw both drivers and most of the team in the swimming pool on the team's boat. The atmosphere today reminded me more of a race where a driver has crashed and been and helicoptered to hospital, and nobody knows how he is, and they don't feel like celebrating.

Hopefully the stewards will investigate this incident after the race. But they had plenty of opportunity to do so during the race, and didn't.

Friday, 23 July 2010

FERNANDO.....ALONSO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Justin: There you go....ok its only practise, but he looks very fast! He has his back against the wall and knows he has to produce now. Isnt that just the way Fernando likes it?

Sunday, 18 July 2010

Villeneuve Racing for 2011??

Justin: My co-blogger should also have said I was pretty tipsy by the time the quiz got going :-). They say don't drink and drive, but you really shouldnt drink and quiz!

I don't know why I forgot about Minardi....well...see above I guess.

The big news in between my last blog and now is that, having picked up Autosport, and indeed seen it on the bbc f1 website....Jacques could be back running his own team in 2011! Not sure if he has asked Alain Prost how to do this or not, but he has apparently passed all money and setup checks etc and his cause could be helped by the fact that Hispania are allegedly struggling financially which could open up two new team slots for next year. I'd imagine he will return as one of his own drivers, given he has been gagging to make a comeback for a year or two now.

In today's papers Mark Webber has again warned that his relationship with Vettel could turn at any given moment. For now though, the status quo remains and Webber will enjoy number one status at Vettel's home gp next weekend....erm...

Friday, 16 July 2010

The best thing since Minardi

Phil: Greetings to both our readers, who've missed out on the second of our I Was Having a Blog live events, the Grand Prix Trivia pub quiz. Congratulations to my co-blogger who scored a creditable second place, and shouldn't pay any attention to the old adage that second place is the first loser, particularly given that he was faced with questions about, for example, the 1968 Moroccan Grand Prix*.

Any, we discovered last night that my co-blogger was curiously ignorant of the existence of Minardi, so to enlighten him, here is my Minardi featurette about a team that competed for two decades and achieved pretty much nothing, apart from helping launch the careers of some great drivers. Here are a few of them.

1. Fernando Alonso. When Alonso took his first world title in 2005, his old boss at Minardi, Paul Stoddart, joked that he was Minardi's first world champion. His début season at Minardi in 2001 was less succesful, eleventh place at the last race of the season in Japan being his best finish, but as has often been the case, opened the door for him at Benetton, and the rest is history.

2. Mark Webber. Alonso's replacement at Minardi might very well be Minardi's second world champion, and perhaps as early as this year. Mark impressed at his very first outing for Minardi, taking fifth place at his home grand prix in 2002, the team's first points for nearly three years, and 16th place in the championship.

3. Alessandro Nannini. Nannini drove for Minardi in early days of the team, in 1986 and 1987. Like Alonso he went on to Benetton, and took his only grand prix victory in Japan in 1989, after Prost's and Senna's infamous collision. He retired from the sport a year later having been seriously injured in a helicopter crash.

4. Giancarlo Fisichella. Fisi drove half a season for Minardi in 1996, before being replaced by a pay-driver. His best result was eighth at Montreal, but it was enough for Jordan to sign him for the following season. A career of midfield mediocrity, punctuated by occasional moments of brilliance, beckoned.

5. Jarno Trulli. Long before Jarno Trulli got old enough to need naps in the middle of races, he started his first six races at Minardi in early 1997, scoring two ninth places. When Olivier Panis crashed at Montreal, and would miss the rest of the season, Alain Prost chose Trulli to replace him.

One final factoid about Italy's number two team: nobody ever stood on an F1 podium, wearing Minardi overalls. Ever.

*Made considerably trickier by the fact that the only Moroccan Grand Prix actually took place in 1958.

Senna!

Justin: Apparently, the reason for his sitting out the British GP was him sending an email to his boss by accident! Whoops! If this is to be believed of course.

I was having a quiz...

Justin: I'll leave it to my esteemed colleague to blog about the I was having a blog live quiz in Wycombe last night.

Onto my news roundup.

Webber has allegedly cleared the air with his team. Until next time eh! He has his hindsight goggles on, so its all good!

Interesting....the night my co-blogger mentions that Buemi is attracting interest from Renault for next year....is the night Toro Rosso sign him on for 2011...Does my colleague move in circles closer to F1 than any of us realise?! Ha, in fact, the Renault looking at Buemi news is on yesterdays f1 bbc gossip column, and today it has been announced that he is staying put. Perhaps Toro Rosso read BBc too!

Bit quiet on the old news front today really, looking around.

Tuesday, 13 July 2010

Christian Horner is a weasel and disgusts me!

Justin: My esteemed co-blogger pointed out that I'd most likely be covering the shocking events surrounding Fernando and his subsequent dropping out of the title race...as lets face it, at 47 points behind Lewis it will take quite a turn around now considering Fernando has not won since the first race and the Red Bulls and Mclarens are picking up points at all races now. Yes you heard it hear first, I havent lost faith with Fernando at all, I've lost faith in the car he is outdriving at most races these days. If you want to see just how shit the Ferrari can be in the wrong hands, just look at Massa...sorry...more Massa bashing. Its true though, Fernando is driving that car to the best of it's abilities. Ok, his start on Sunday was shockingly poor and his race didnt really recover thereafter, but still, when you are desperate to stay in the title fight and outdriving a car that doesnt go as fast as your rivals, then mistakes happen.

Anyway....Red Bull's treatment of Mark Webber is shocking. I only saw a bit of the pre-amble on quali on Saturday and I saw EJ interview Horner about the wing. I was watching final practice and saw when the wing came loose from Vettel's car. With whats gone on before, its a simple answer....Red Bull blatantly favour Vettel. If they were equal, Horner would have said to Vettel "sorry mate we only have two wings and you broke yours"......not "oh sorry Seb you broke your front wing, lets nick Marks!".

One word for the way Horner carries himself, talks to the cameras...lies to the cameras about team orders and number one's etc......(fucking) disgusting!

I like Mark Webber a lot....he is a thoroughly likeable chap, straight down the middle honest, and he is fast and quite capable of being champion this year. So he is 33? So what? Mansell and Hill both blossomed later in their careers.

To my co blogger and readers......that first corner....wasnt that Mansell-esque balls out racing by Webber as Vettel tried to go round him and Webber maintained his ground and said "no fucking way mate"? Sheer Aussie grit and determination that was!

I was watching in a cafe in London and the cheers when everyone realised it was Vettel that went off were fantastic! I dont think he is liked too much. Perhaps that was because most people were following Hamilton...fools!

Fernando....what can you say? He has been extremely unlucky with rulings these past two races (as Mark Webber would say...karma for previous incidents?"), but whatever has happened, the Ferarri is nowhere near fast enough and the fact now remains that Alonso is two wins away from Lewis at the top. At this point in time I dont see Alonso winning a race...I would say a Ferrari winning a race, but that assumes Massa has the capability...blatant massa bashing again but hey its true.

Agreed co-blogger....a fantastic drive from Jenson from 14th to 4th.....the drive of a (double) world champion? These are the sorts of races that really count when you are on damage limitation.

Onto Germany in two weeks now...Go on Mark....you owe Vettel a thrashing in his home race! Can you tell who I want to win the title now Fernando seems a bit out of it? Dont get me wrong....never write off Fernando's abilities, he may come back after just one dnf from Lewis...it all changes in an instant if someone from the front fails to finish and others score big...I like this new system...but at the moment Fernando is severely down, if not out.

I shall blog again soon after having soaked in the news roundups.

Monday, 12 July 2010

Not bad for a number two

Phil: 'Not bad for a number two driver', if you haven't heard, was how Mark Webber sarcastically described his achievement in winning the British Grand Prix. Well Mark, at this blog we love a good number two.

The infighting at Red Bull seems to have returned with a vengeance, and the clearing of the air that followed Webber's and Vettel's collision in Turkey seems to have been only temporary. Fair enough, there was only one new front wing, but it's looking more and more like Vettel is the unofficial number one driver at the team. To me, Christian Horner's congratulations message to Mark which immediately preceded his 'number two' remark seemed very empty and lacking in enthusiasm.

I'm going to leave the Alonso penalty to my co-blogger, as I know he'll want to take issue with it. Instead, here are a few things which for me brightened up the afternoon at Silverstone: it was good to see Button make his way back from fourteenth on the grid to fourth in the race, in a car which he described after quali as 'undriveable'; it was good to see Barrichello and Williams as high as fifth; it was good to see Stirling Moss up on the podium dodging the champagne; and finally it was good to see guest steward Nigel Mansell threatening to fine Eddie Jordan for his poor dress sense (something we've been complaining about all season - at last the stewards are taking note).

Friday, 9 July 2010

Money talks

Phil: Don't worry, my co-blogger wasn't talking about our relationship. We are still very much loved up.

In answer to where all the romance went, it's tempting to identify one of Bernie Ecclestone's more private parts. But the truth is, I don't think it was ever there: cash has always been king in Formula 1. We both know why Hispania dropped Bruno Senna, and it's nothing to do with his performance on the track. Sakon Yamamoto's sponsors (who are rumoured to include Honda*) simply offered more money than Senna's, and for a team such as Hispania which is unlikely to achieve anything this season anyway and who probably struggle to pay the wage bill each month, that's all that matters.

Hispania's car has been so dire that it's all but impossible to get any idea of how good, or otherwise, Senna actually is. But I feel optimistic we haven't seen the last of the Senna name in F1.

*Honda have a habit of favouring crap Japanese drivers over promising non-Japanese ones: my co-blogger, who was raised on F1 from an early age, will probably recall Satoru Nakajima's distinctly unmemorable tenure at Lotus in 1987. His teammate? None other than Ayrton Senna.

Where has the romance gone?

Justin: Bruno Senna has been dumped by Hispania for the British GP. As yet theres no news whether this extends beyond this race or not. Apparently its something to do with funding that the driver brings not being received by the team. You do have to wonder sometimes about F1 becoming too much of a strict business. Drivers bringing money in for a near bankrupt team is nothing much new, but dumping the nephew of a the greatest driver in history just shows theres no room for sentiment....even if Aryton did once say that his nephew was faster then he! Just kind of depresses me really. Lets face it, Hispania are a shit team with a bucket of shit car. The ONLY GOOD THING about this team is Bruno Senna.

Wednesday, 7 July 2010

Bog wash, the tortoise, a fresh blog and news rounded up

Justin: I absolutely love the build up to a race!!!! It's the week before....its the anticipation, its the news stories filtering through as drivers do their PR work for their teams. This weekend there is a small event taking place in an old airfield somewhere north of London.

If you've been reading the papers, you'll have read about Damon Hill analysing the Button vs Hamilton axis. He thinks their feud could be about to boil over and he then labelled Button the Tortoise to Hamilton's Hare!

Then, in the news today, a fantastic article about Button and Hamilton visiting Great Ormond Street hospital and neither of them knowing what to say when asked by one boy "do you have a bet on to see who will win the title?"....he then said "the loser should be bogwashed by the other"....Button replies "did he just say that? Well, if that happens to me, I'll get my running shoes on"....classic stuff from the British duo at Mclaren! :-).

Incidentally, the bbc website lists classic race moments for each GP and we pick one out to be replayed - Hmmm, British GP classic race? There is only one....Mansell, balls out overtaking around the outside of Nelson Piquet in 87 baby! That was one time of many with Mansell where you could hear the crowd roar over the noise of the cars. Amazing!

Looking at the news coverage, you wouldnt think anyone else was competing in this GP, other than Hamilton and Button!

In other news, Lewis said he and Fernando are "cool" as they "texted" to sort out their differences. Mysterious!

Roll on quali on Saturday baby!!!!!